I think my fingers froze off taking these pictures though…..
Big Brother is considering dictating (Bill# S00473) how you train your dogs.
S 113-A. OBEDIENCE TRAINING; REQUIRED. 1. THE COMMISSIONER SHALL BY RULE OR REGULATION ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS FOR BASIC OBEDIENCE COURSES FOR DOGS AND THEIR OWNERS WHICH MUST BE SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETED PURSUANT TO THIS SECTION. SUCH REQUIREMENTS SHALL INCLUDE INSTRUCTION FOR THE OWNER ON THE PRINCIPLES OF DOG TRAINING, AND INSTRUCTION ON AND PRACTICE OF OBEDIENCE TRAINING BY BOTH THE DOG AND ITS OWNER. FURTHERMORE, THE COMMISSIONER SHALL ESTABLISH MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS FOR THE SUCCESSFUL COMPLETION OF SUCH BASIC OBEDIENCE COURSES. 2. THE COMMISSIONER SHALL ESTABLISH REQUIREMENTS FOR DOG OBEDIENCE SCHOOLS WHICH ARE AUTHORIZED TO PROVIDE THE BASIC DOG OBEDIENCE COURSES FOR DOGS AND THEIR OWNERS AS REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION. 3. THE OWNER OF ANY DOG REACHING THE AGE OF ONE YEAR SHALL, ON OR BEFORE THE DATE SUCH DOG REACHES ONE YEAR OF AGE OR WITHIN ONE HUNDRED EIGHTY DAYS OF RECEIVING OWNERSHIP OF SUCH DOG, WHICHEVER SHALL BE LATER, SUCCESSFULLY COMPLETE, WITH HIS OR HER DOG, A BASIC OBEDIENCE COURSE.
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So they want to dictate what and how our dogs are taught basic obedience. And require it of all dog owners. Which on the surface of things I can see the theory. But reality doesn’t work that way.
First off, its yet ANOTHER state dictated expense for dog owning. Unless they’re going to force trainers to offer the class for free, yah, that’d go over well. Or maybe they’ll decide to subsidise it. Like they are the minimum wage. Yah, lets do that *headdesk*
And lets look at the practical issues:
Working farm dogs, especially Livestock Guardian Dogs, almost never leave the home property, are frequently not house pets, and are unlikely to pass basic obedience (or have an owner who wants them too).
Hunting hounds are often not house pets, only leave the home property for hunting trips, and their owners are very unlikely to be interested in basic obedience classes.
A dog with dog aggression problems certainly needs training, but squashing one into a crowded “one size fits all” class will do them more harm than good.
Conformation show dogs are frequently taught modified obedience, including “down” or “stand” in place of “sit” because they don’t want the dogs sitting in the show ring. If the mandated training dictates the use of the command “sit” show dogs are screwed too.
Never mind that not all dogs learn the same way. What works for your average Lab might not work for your average hunting hound, never mind your average primitive breed. Oh yes, the primitives. Like the ones I own. Both of whom are perfectly safe in public. And both of whom would be very unlikely to pass your average “basic obedience” class, ESPECIALLY if it was done by the wrong trainer…..
HERE you can find your local Assemblymember and let them know what you think!
Click read more to see the letter I wrote.
Well, he actually turned 4 on the 18th and I’m a little behind, but its so hard to believe that its been almost 4 years since we brought him home, looking like this:
And at the show in Mid Nov he even took Best Of Breed over his nephew!
aka: some moron who publishes for public consumption is trying to get people bitten
I’m NOT going to link to the actual article. But if you really want to read it, it was published on The Toast, and its titled “Tips for Getting the Most Out Of Strangers’ Dogs”. Note, The Toast isn’t exactly what I’d call high end reading, but unfortunately the article is making the rounds of Facebook…..
And its basically a set of instructions on how to get a strange dog to allow you to pet them without having to ask the dog owner for permission first…..
The FIRST thing the author tells you to do is lock eyes with the dog.
Locking eyes with a predator is an aggressive signal. While its true that certain training commands involve having a dog do that on command, outside of that setup its STILL an aggressive move even for those dogs. And while some dogs won’t care, others will be scared by the eye contact (oh yah, terrorizing the dog you want to pet is a good idea), and still others till respond in a very aggressive manner.
Never mind that there ARE dogs who’ll allow you to reach out a hand to pet them….only to snap at the hand because something triggered their fear at the last minute.
Never mind the SHEAR STUPIDITY that people insist on doing this sort of thing with working dogs (and no, just because you don’t see a vest on the dog doesn’t mean they’re not working).
So do yourself and every dog you meet a favor. Ask the owners permission BEFORE even approaching the dog. Do NOT lock eyes with the dog. And if at any point the owner indicates that your attention isn’t welcome or needs to stop, then DON’T PUSH IT.
At some point in the last year I’d heard about a “new” canine sport called Barn Hunt. Its basically a simulated rat hunt in a simulated barn setting. Lots of “simulated” in there, but the idea was to work terriers as if they were barn dogs, charged with keeping the barn free of vermin. But the sport isn’t just open to terriers, but to any breed of dog. I thought it sounded like something that Arty would enjoy, and since I’ve been on the lookout for something I can do with him to get him out and about more I looked up local clubs.
No luck, the closest club was 2.5hrs away. Not to far for competition certainly, but far enough that I wasn’t keen on dragging him out there for practices.
Then over the summer I found out about a new club starting up about 45 minutes north of me. MUCH more feasible, location wise. So I signed up Arty for practices. And he LOVED it.
So I went to register him with Barn Hunt so he could actually compete. And that’s where I ran into a problem. Barn Hunt doesn’t care if the dog itself is register-able with any kennel club. But in order for their breed to be listed with Barn Hunt the BREED must be register-able with one of the major kennel clubs (to keep the breed list from becoming a mess of -doodles and the like).
There’s something like barely 300 New Guinea Singing Dogs in the entire world. Less most likely though I don’t have the current numbers. And a fairly large number of those are owned by zoos, and research facilities, or in “group” settings. The number owned by the private person, like me and my Arty is quite small. Which just isn’t enough to get most KCs to be interested in recognizing them. And two of the KCs that USED to recognize them no longer do. I know what happened with one, but no one I’ve talked to knows what happened with the 2nd.
Barn Hunt refused to make an exception. I was pretty peeved, for all that I understand the reasoning, there was no appeal process or anything. I could have registered him with them as a “mixed breed”, but frankly the only thing I needed to register him for was actual competition runs. I could still do practice sessions and “fun hunts” without registration. So I refused, and so did every other Singer owner I talked to who was interested in Barn Hunt.
Then I discovered the IABCA lists Singers! And Barn Hunt was willing to accept the IABCA’s listing! Woohoo!
That was 3 weeks ago.
Today Arty ran his first official trail. He got his Instinct Qualification. And his first (three are required) Novice Qual. And although he wasn’t the fastest in the ring by any stretch, he did it with time to spare.
There’s another Barn Hunt trial coming up the end of Nov, I can’t wait!
Get a 911 call that “aggressive dogs are terrorizing a lady in a car“
Send officer out to look things over.
Officer allows one dog to be captured by a neighbor of the owner. But when he attempts to call the other dogs to him they act aggressively so he has to shoot them for his own safety.
Owner calls BS on the “acting aggressively” part and FOIA’s the video from the officer’s lapel cam (yay for wired police!). Police release a 22second bit of video that shows the officer shooting the dog “for his own safety”: http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/news/article_7e920210-5646-11e4-a670-8fe5949ce1ca.html?mode=video (warning, the video does indeed show the dog being shot, its not the goryest thing ever, but some people will be bothered regardless).
Cue public upset in 3…2….
Additional video from before the shooting: http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/video_b174524a-5647-11e4-8c6a-cb8bcb24f91e.html
and after the shooting: http://www.cleburnetimesreview.com/video_cee9af92-5646-11e4-8ae5-0b544247bb8a.html (very clear shot of the dead and bloody dog)
I can’t comment on what happened with the dogs cornering someone in their car. Its not on video. I can certainly see how a friendly, excited, reasonably sized, dog bouncing on the car door in an attempt to say “HI!!” could be scary to someone who’s not good with dogs.
In the video from before the shooting I can hear a lady talking to the officer and stating that one of the brown dogs snapped at her. I can hear the officer telling another resident that the black and white dog (who at this time he’s ignoring) was the one acting aggressively. Officer allows the owners’ neighbor to catch and contain the black and white dog.
There’s a gap of at least a few seconds, and possibly longer, between the first video and the 22second video. According to info from the police department the two remaining loose dogs growled at the officer during this gap. Not sure why we don’t have a video of it, releasing that info would go a long way to supporting the officer’s side of the story.
In the 22second clip, you can see the officer approaching the two dogs, who are sniffing a drain pipe and ignoring the approaching human. Tails are slowly wagging, a sign that whatever else is going on the dogs aren’t highly agitated. Whiny barks can be heard, no growling or full throated barks can be heard. Officer points his gun at the dogs, chirps to get their attention, they look at him, and he fires three shots at one of them. Its hard to tell with the officer’s hands in the way of the video, but I saw no sign of either dog actually even moving towards him after he chirps at them. The other dog runs away.
In the final video the officer can be seen repeatedly pointing his gun at the remaining dog every time the so much as looks in his direction. The dog is still not acting aggressively. At this point the ACO finally arrives and takes over, at the ACO’s approach the remaining dog shows every sign of being happy to see a friendly human, and even rolls over on his back for belly rubs. The ACO is able to walk the dog away without so much as a leash to contain the dog.
Now, I certainly have no idea if these dogs are regular escapees. Or how much they’ve terrorized the neighborhood. But nothing in the videos shows aggression, or anything else to cause the officer to fear for his own safety….
Cause I was once again without my camera, even though I know better. Though to be fair, I don’t think I’d have gotten a picture anyway….
Yesterday evening, about 7:40pm-ish, we were outside with the dogs in the new run. We don’t normally spend alot of time outside at dusk, the mosquitoes alone are enough to usually keep us inside. But yesterday the wind was high enough, and the air cool enough that it was quite nice outside. The dogs were enjoying it….
…..till Apollo suddenly roared and bolted for the back fence….I grabbed a double handfull of ruff, just in case he decided to try to go over the fence, and tried to get a look at what he was upset about. Biiiig coyote, trotting across our back line, and our neighbor’s back line. He stopped and froze when Apollo went off, but quickly realized that the dog wasn’t actually coming for him and just went on his way. Not sure if it was the same fellow we saw last year or not. I had a roaring pissed off Tibetan Mastiff demanding that the coyote keep moving and so I didn’t get the best of looks…….
I’m to lazy to dig out all the news articles, if you really want to read them doing a search for “elbridge dog shooting” will get you most of them.
On May 31st an Elbridge woman shot her neighbor’s dog when the dog went after her cat.
Police declined to charge her with animal cruelty from the get go, charging her instead with firing a gun within town limits.
A couple days ago they dismissed those charges, stating that the law was aimed at reckless firearm discharge, and that people were still allowed to fire a gun in defense of self and property.
Of course, the dog owner is having a cow. Upset that there won’t be justice for her dog. Her grandkid is devastated.
Took a bit of digging, but I was able to confirm that Elbridge does indeed have a leash law. Unlike alot of such they do make allowances for a dog to be under voice control of the owner. However every single news article makes it clear that the dog was NOT under voice control at the time of the incident.
According to the above linked article the dog has multiple counts, confirmed by court records, of acting aggressively against the neighbors. AND there have been multiple reports of the dog running loose and out of control.
While I have some sympathy for the grandkids, I have zero sympathy for the dog owner. She repeatedly allowed her dog to run loose, despite repeated incidents of aggression by the dog and despite local leash laws. If she had just taken the basic steps of containing and controlling her dog after the first incident this wouldn’t have happened. Its not that hard, it just takes a little more effort on the part of the owner. A dog who has a history of acting aggressive and is still allowed to run loose is not going to survive long, that is plain and simple fact.
Having said all that, I have to note, that the easiest way to ensure that your cat isn’t attacked by a local dog is to not allow your cat to run loose….